We talked to the polarizing visionary about his sophomore album ‘Not Now I’m Busy’ and working with Will Smith.
and his team walk into Manhattan’s Sei Less a bit perturbed. After the Worchester, Massachusetts-born artist takes a seat in one of the upscale restaurant’s back rooms, he and his manager Drew Picasso reveal that they just found out that a friend was using Joyner’s fame to get over on others behind his back. “Am I looking at it wrong, or that’s fucked up?” Joyner asks the room after explaining the situation. We resoundingly agree that what he told us was indeed shady business.
When you actually do have money and are actually able to do things, you experience it really on a different level because now niggas get to see your possessions. They get to see what you’re doing. And it’s like, then you really feel the entitlement and you really start losing people, you know?Oh, they’re done. The more I become less tolerant of it. And this album really is about growing backwards. A lot of people grow forward and they have a lot of self-revelation and become a better person.
I also saw that part of that process was you receiving feedback from listeners that the music wasn’t what they expected from you. He thought Rambo was going to be my biggest record. I told him, I said, nah man. Rambo is not going to be, Rambos a dub. Sometimes we be wrong, bro.They’re very important. A lot of artists say, fuck that shit, do what you want. But I’m like, man, fuck that, nigga. I want to make sure the base is happy. Sometimes I’m going to do that they’re not going to fuck with. But the majority of the album can’t be 90%, 80% what the core don’t want to hear. The album started sounding like that.
There was also a line on that song: “I’m an overthinker that over plans.” How do you manage being an overthinker?
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