The author discusses her powerful new novel – Either/Or
are not overtly political books, but you’ve described them both in that way. Can you explain why?came out at a very political time – around the end of 2016, when Trump’s “grabbing women by the pussy” tape leaked. Then #MeToo happened in 2017, and then the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination in 2018. It was a time when a lot of women were revisiting their own early sexual history using language that they weren’t using before.
DS: Do you think that’s the writer’s plight? Doomed to make the same mistakes over and over, and tell the same stories? DS: You talk a lot about longing as a gendered experience, and the way women have more of a tendency to romanticise pain. One example that really made me laugh is one of the characters, Jeremy, who’s seeing two girls named Diane: “even though he talked about the Dianes constantly, he didn’t seem incapacitated; he always had the strength to pivot to his other favourite topic, which was the works of Thomas Pynchon.
DS: You’ve mentioned your having a lot of troubling romances. What snapped you out of that stupor? I know you’ve spoken about psychotherapy being helpful. DS: There’s a lot of talk about bimbos making a comeback recently: the return of the tradwife, the end of feminism, the allure of the smooth brain.EB: I hope not. I wrote this book in a really happy lesbian relationship, after having a lot of difficult straight relationships and only dating men my whole adult life. It made me wonder why I hadn’t done it sooner.
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