What is it about the American political system that has cultivated this deeply polarized climate? Listen to journalist ezraklein discuss with chrislhayes on WITHPod. Full transcript:
You take the structures we have, you take the also geographic stacking that's happening, which is that people move to cities and they tend to get more liberal, both either through self-selection and also pure effects, is a little murky about how that happens. We've got people who are in places like Harris County, outside Houston, which Mitt Romney won by, I think, 100,000 votes and Hillary Clinton won, it was like a 100,000 vote flip from 2012 to 2016.
There's just a lot of things like that in the system right now, but we're moving, I've seen demographic projections that suggest that we're going to be in a state in a couple of decades where 30 percent of the Senate represents 70 percent of the population, and 70 percent of the Senate represents 30 percent of the population. I mean, you can really imagine a situation with an increasing divergence between what the public wants and the kind of governance are getting.
EZRA KLEIN: You know, somebody else just had this conversation with me and said they'd come up with Kanye West.CHRIS HAYES: Right. Avenatti, exactly. But Kanye's charismatic and famous already and has this very intense attentional gift of he's very good at making you pay attention to Kanye West. He's also absolutely not a person who should ever have the nuclear codes, very clearly.
CHRIS HAYES: You know, I think that's totally right. And also, a politician who spent his entire career in a state that's 90 percent white talking to and cultivating ways to talk to, message to and gain the support of white rural voters, which is what Vermont is.
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