🎧 Listen: In today’s episode of The Journal podcast, sgurman and learyreports discuss Donald Trump’s third indictment over efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and what his mounting legal troubles mean for his presidential campaign
This transcript was prepared by a transcription service. This version may not be in its final form and may be updated.Kate Linebaugh: Two and a half years after the attack on the US Capitol, the Justice Department indicted former president, Donald Trump, for his role in the insurrection. The Justice Department laid out its case in a 45-page criminal indictment.
Sadie Gurman: Jack Smith, who is the special counsel, he's a former war crimes prosecutor. He's not somebody who says very much, he prefers to let his work speak through court filings. So yesterday's statement was a rare time in which we actually got to hear his voice. He said that the January 6th, 2021 attack on the Capitol was caused and precipitated by Trump's lies about the election.
Sadie Gurman: Basically, in this indictment, Smith acknowledges that Trump had a First Amendment right to criticize the election and even say that there was fraud. But this enters the realm of criminal conduct, because he went so far beyond those rights, and took steps that basically involved discounting legitimate votes.
Sadie Gurman: Well, that's significant because while they're not charged currently, they could still face potential criminal charges. It also suggests that the Justice Department in its investigation has some pretty high level co-operation from people in Trump's orbit, that some of these people had testified before the grand jury or had spoken at length with prosecutors.
Kate Linebaugh: What Trump's legal woes mean for his campaign finances? That's next. Minutes after the news of Trump's third indictment, political reporter, Alex Leary, noticed an email in his inbox.
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