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Highlighting the best episode of comedian Ashley Gavin’s podcast.

for women in comedy: “I would feel more comfortable asking Demi Lovato to do my podcast than you,” Gavin jokes. But Kirson is just as excited to be there, regaling Gavin with compliments before offering to do her weekly. “I know we’ve never met,” Kirson tells Gavin, “but I’m proud of you. Isn’t that crazy?”

Gavin announced that “since we have a MILF in the room today,” her gay-sex story of the week will be the end piece of a two-month-long “Brazilian MILF arc.” She and an unnamed polyamorous mother with highly graspable breasts had “incredible chemistry,” she humblebrags, but it was taking far too long to get to straight-up sex. Instead, they did so much heavy petting that it actually “broke my brain,” making Gavin feel like she had to close the door to any kind of deeper relationship.

Wiener and Gavin laugh, but Kirson indicates that her feelings on kids are no joke. “I never thought of having a child myself, because I feel very male in a lot of ways.” She reveals that coming out to her parents, one of whom responded “Is it my fault?” made her feel like “it would be insane” to have a baby. Still, as a lifelong co-dependent and lesbian, Kirson agreed to have kids despite working in an industry known “for causing depression, rejection, and loneliness.

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