What was it like for 'Vanderpump Rules' star Ariana Madix after her breakup with Tom Sandoval? 'There were nights when we were blasting Beyoncé‘s “Lemonade” to the point where I thought maybe we were going to break the speakers in the house.' PumpRules
Determined not to let the ‘Randall Scandal’ define her, the reality TV star was the first person to smell trouble with the show’s now infamous ‘Scandoval.’you had already alerted production to the demise of the relationship.
Talk a little bit about that. Did you feel any sort of implicit or explicit pressure to start cameras back up? Was itWe were actually supposed to film B-roll around the house on that Monday. So when our talent coordinator texted me about times for Monday, and I said, “Hey, so that’s not going to work, here’s why.” ... I was actually in front of Tom. I was sitting there writing in my Notes app like, “I want to tell everyone about this!” And he was like, “Don’t post it on Instagram.” In hindsight, it’s best that I didn’t. So he was right about one thing. Our showrunner called me and he was like, “What the hell are you talking about? Are you joking?” We talked on the phone for a long time. And at the end of the conversation, he was like, “I don’t know when we could do this, but I do feel like we need to capture this moment.” And I was like, “I don’t love that. But I completely understand. And you just let me know.” I was almost like “Weekend at Bernie’s” a little bit in those first couple of weeks: Tell me where to go and I’ll go there. We’ve been showing our lives and going through all of our highs and lows for 10 years. And so it felt like it’s only right to do that. Also, I wanted that s— exposed. So, we were already sitting down and had already started filming when we got the alert from [our Bravo publicist] that the TMZ story was coming out. And I said, “All right, well, I’m going to deactivate my Instagram. But I am thrilled.”“Vanderpump Rules” stars Lala Kent, from left, James Kennedy, Maloney and Madix during the show’s Season 10 reunion. What did you think, Katie, about cameras capturing this moment? You’ve gone through big life discussions, like your divorce, without it being filmed.I was supposed to go to New York the following week. And [a producer] told me I couldn’t go. They were going to need me in L.A., we’re actually going back into production. And I’m like, “What are you talking about?” He said, “Do you know what I’m talking about? If you don’t, I can’t really say.” I’m like, “This is the most confusing, cryptic thing ever.” ... I said, “Are people OK?” He said, “Yes and no.” I’m like, “Does this affect me directly? Am I gonna cry?” He’s like, “You might cry.” I was trying to ask so many questions. I’m not gonna lie, because there’s things that were happening, like seeing Raquel catch a flight and going to his show. I remember telling Lala, “There’s something funny going on. And I don’t want to raise it with Ariana until there’s something — evidence. It’ll upset her, and I don’t want to be that kind of friend.”be able to have this conversation with Sandoval, did you go in like, “I want to make sure I say this”?I knew that I wanted that to be accurate to the way that he had been behaving the 48 hours leading up to that. And when he sat down and started acting sad, I said, “This is not you. This is an act. Why are you acting sad now? You’ve been yelling at me for 48 hours.” Even the next day, after he filmed with Raquel, he came back to my house and yelled at all my friends that were there. So I found everything to be very disingenuous. He was so indignant about the whole thing. And I was just like, “I need him to get back to that level because that’s been the reality.”She spent the night at my house when I went to Mexico for a wedding. I know that for a fact, even though his publicist, via his own word-for-word text message, said, “Don’t worry. I was able to get Page Six to take the word ‘sleepover’ out.” The paper trail runs deep. Let me just say that.What did you think of the moment Sandoval and Raquel have together in the finale?If it wasn’t real life, I would have thought it was like an episode of “Arrested Development.” It was bizarro comedy.The cheers-ing, “Welcome to hell” ... just the juxtaposition. The galaxy lights. How many galaxy lights are going off in that house? Do you have stock in galaxy lights, Raquel? I want to know. Anyways, I digress. But it was disturbing, to say the least. And just the way she all of a sudden had like this “aha!” moment of, “Wait, if you could cheat on Ariana, could you cheat on me?” It’s like, “You just arrived at this?”Advertisement We saw that she turned off her phone after that was shot. Was there any plan for you and her to have a discussion at all?Has she ever tried to explain herself to you?The day before I filmed that scene, she sent me a text and said, “I don’t know what to say, but I’m sorry.” And I said: “F— you, you f— rat.” And I blocked her. The reunion was shot in March but, as we’ve established, things keep coming out. Is there anything more that you would want to say to him that you haven’t already said?I don’t have anything to say to him. I think that he is probably well aware at this point that I know a lot more that he was still lying about at the reunion.Something I found interesting in speaking with fans of the show is this feeling of internal conflict. They can’t get enough of it. They want to know every bit and piece of it. But also recognizing that you’re a human going through something really tough right now and it feels wrong to be so consumed by it. What do you think about that sort of dynamic at play here?I understand it. Me and Katie, we’re big fans of other shows. We’re like that with “Love Island” and all of our favorite things that we like to watch. I think the only place that I start to get a little all bummed out is when people think that we’re just following some sort of elaborate break.That’s the only place where sometimes it goes there or they’re like, “Oh, well, Ariana seems to be doing great, so she must not have cared.” And I’m like, “OK?”The same way I must have been fine because I wasn’t in a puddle over my divorce.Liev Schreiber.I was in New York, and we were looking at this post and that was the top comment. He said, “Is this news?” or whatever. I was literally backstage at “The View.” His comment and the responses and the way people were going on his page and trolling in the comments saying, “Is this news? Is this news? Is this news?” And then he apologized. I get it. Look, there’s so many things happening in the world that are really f— up. There are wars going on, there’s famine. There’s way more important things. But at the same time, I understand why people want that pop culture escape. And it is news. I am a big fan of Liev Schreiber’s work, but in the same way that if the New York Times was to do a big profile of him for “Ray Donovan,” would I comment, “Is this news?” No, because I would understand.Just because you don’t know what they’re talking about doesn’t mean you need to be rude. Keep scrolling. Leave, Liev. Sorry, I love “Ray Donovan.” I don’t understand when people have to do that.The “Who cares?” stuff. Some people do, and if you don’t, that’s fine. But that’s one big thing, I’m always like, “You know when you engage with content, you see more of that content.”Schwartz and Raquel kissed at Scheana’s wedding. What did you think when you saw how it played out?Once I saw it, that kiss was so creepy and gross. Watching it, I was, like, just two drunk slobs. But again, just the way that it happened and the place that it happened and the people that cheered, I was like, y’all, they’re terrible people.It was f— up. And you know what’s annoying is that, again, the duplicitousness of the three of them. Because the way that it was like, “Oh, my God, it just happened” or “We were caught up in the moment” and “I don’t know if I have feelings, but I kind of do; I think maybe I have a crush on him.” Then you see that later on and she’s like, “Oh, she already hates us.” Last week, coinciding with the finale, came the news that Sandoval and Raquel are no longer together. And there are also rumors about this new woman in Texas. Do you have any thoughts or insight into that?A postcard came to my house yesterday [from Arizona and seemingly from Raquel]. When I got home yesterday from recording a podcast, it was in the mail. I put it on the counter. I mean, come on, babe, put it in an envelope. ... I don’t know what the deal is, but I don’t believe they’re not together.How are you feeling about an 11th season of “Vanderpump Rules”? Is there a world where you come back if both Sandoval and Raquel also return, if you don’t want to film with them?It’s not up to us who comes back. I’m just going to be doing me. Me doing me means they are not a part of my life.For sure, I just wouldn’t hang out with them.For me, yeah, I’ve got my friends. I’ve got her, I’ve got Lala. Me and Scheana are getting along. There’s enough to work with, and we have the sandwich shop. They’re all kind of the last thing on my mind. There’s so much great things happening and so much other stuff to worry about, it’s not for me to worry about how you fit into my life ‘cause you’re not in my life.I hope you don’t mind if I end on a silly question, but I have to know: Are you both stocked up on your supply of toilet paper and batteries? You managing OK?[Laughs.] I’m stocked up. And it’s funny because someone just sent batteries to my house.Maloney:You don’t have anyone to take care of the house like they always do?I have pens, but they might be drying up. First of all, what do guys know about toilet paper? They don’t know anything.
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