Updates on Isaac Okoro’s contract situation and the likelihood he returns to the Cavs: Wine and Gold Talk pod

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Updates on Isaac Okoro’s contract situation and the likelihood he returns to the Cavs: Wine and Gold Talk pod
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Isaac Okoro is testing the waters to see if he can get a better contract offer around the league than the Cavs' qualifying offer.

Updates on Isaac Okoro’s contract situation and the likelihood he returns to the Cavs: Wine and Gold Talk podcastCan LeBron James lead Team USA to another gold medal? Wine and Gold Talk podcastThe Cavs’ projected win total for the upcoming season is around 47-48, but it may take more wins to secure a playoff spot in the competitive Eastern Conference.

They’ve had the opportunity to use the mid -level exception on Isaac. They haven’t done that. So that tells you just kind of the value around the NBA. And it’s something that we’ve talked about on this podcast a few times, Ethan, is that, you know, guys like him, they have value. There’s no doubt about it, but you’re at a point where you’re trying to quantify it and you’re trying to put a financial number to that value.

to them and potential trades and taking salary back and all that kind of stuff that they’re trying to balance right now. But for multiple years at that kind of number, I don’t think the Cavs would go that direction. Not with the new rules that are in place, not with the new salary structure that’s in place. I get the sense that the Cavs want to avoid moving into the future, paying anybody that’s not a starter that kind of money. And I think a lot of other teams are on the NBA, Ethan.

All of sudden their timeline gets accelerated. They start growing internally. They trade for Donovan Mitchell and Isaac’s role is completely different. So I just don’t know how many teams around the NBA would honestly look at him as a starting caliber wing, given the offensive flaws that he currently has. Given the fact that opponents ignore him constantly when he’s out on the perimeter, when he’s out at the three point line.

Right. And not everybody is going to get the exact contract that they feel like they’re worth. It just doesn’t work that way. and if there’s no team out there that is willing to give Isaac that kind of contract that he believes he’s worth, that his people around him believe he’s worth, that then what are the calves supposed to do? Bit against themselves? They’re not going to do that. That’s not smart business.

Made us be like, no, he’s cannot play in the NBA anymore. He doesn’t play on the Cavs.

until the bigger extensions kick in next off season, which is Donovan Mitchell, which is Evan Mobley. But once those kick in and Donovan makes around 50 and Darius makes 40 and Jarrett makes 20 and Evan Mobley is going to make around 40, they might have to make a decision, Ethan, between Max Drews and Karis Levert. And if Karis is going to be a free agent,

grabbing boards and pushing the pace and all of those things, if one of those players that’s supposed to have one of the best shooting nights against Darius Garland or Donovan Mitchell doesn’t show up, that’s more opportunities off the glass, that’s more opportunities for them to run and create offensive opportunities that wouldn’t be there if Isaac O ‘Cora was there, right? Because you have the understanding that you have somebody else on the offensive floor, Max Struths, Karras LeVert, who...

In today’s NBA, expiring contracts are going to be valuable again, and Karis being on an expiring contract, on top of the fact that he can help a team. He could start, he could come off the bench. He can guard multiple positions. if the Cavs get a sense that they’re not going to be able to afford him beyond this year. and, they can maybe get an asset or two back in return for Karis ahead of the trade deadline. That’s definitely something that I think they would consider. I would think.

You know, guys in the middle class in a harsh way, kind of screwed. Like all of the big money is going to go to the star player. Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, Jared Allen, Darius Garland. They’re going to command so much of the Cavs salary to begin with. Just their salary cap space. So how do you put together a competitive team? I mean, look at the Denver Nuggets.

Here’s what the wins column looked like for each team in last year at the top of the Eastern Conference. The Boston Celtics had 64 wins, the New York Knicks had 50 wins, the Milwaukee Bucks had 49 wins, the Cavs had 48 wins, and the Magic and the Pacers, both Magic Pacers and 76ers, all had 47 wins. So, if you’re looking at the hierarchy of this, a lot of the drafts, a lot of

topping the projected win total that they have. But beyond that, I mean so much of this is going to be, okay, Kenny Atkinson first year as head coach for the Cavs. What does he get out of this offense that J .B.

They’ve got Bam, they’ve got Jimmy, they’ve got Tyler Hero, they’ve got a talented roster, and they’re probably not going to deal with the same stuff that they had to deal with last year too. So, if we’re looking at all these different teams in the Eastern Conference, you know, Boston, New York, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Orlando, Indiana, Philly, Miami, that’s seven teams right there. I mean, that’s eight teams right there, actually. Eight that I just rattled off.

they were able to take advantage of what we consider to be an advantageous matchup for majority of those games, right? And now that looks a lot harder because some of those advantageous matchups even have added their own key pieces, right? Like the Detroit Pistons who won 14 games last year. Who knows? They got guys now that they got rid of Killian Hayes.They got new guys on that roster.

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