[PODCAST] ‘This is us sending a message to all and sundry who might want to defraud any state institution.... that the law of this country will catch up with you,’ - UIFBenefits Commissioner TebohoMaruping on MoneywebAtMidday with maggsonmedia.
JEREMY MAGGS: A very warm welcome. The Unemployment Insurance Fund [UIF] has welcomed the latest convictions of two people accused of swindling the fund’s Covid-19 Temporary Employer/Employee Relief Scheme; we know it better as Ters.
TEBOHO MARUPING: Yes, actually if you recall during 2020, in the beginning when we issued directives, the first directive that the UIF issued with the department was very strict. It excluded all companies that were not registered for UIF, all people who were not declared for UIF were not covered in the first phases of Covid.
Because they were not compliant with Sars, they were not compliant with UIF. But we needed to intervene on behalf of South Africans, and I think that was the main doorway. Otherwise, had you closed that one and said, don’t apply, then many people would not have benefited from the Covid Ters intervention.
The only problem is that we are paying even ghost employees, and this is now what we call fiscal leakage, where money goes the wrong way. TEBOHO MARUPING: This is very big for us. I think this is one of our greatest successes. One of our biggest ones was the 20-year sentencing that happened about six months ago, and a subsequent five years. So I think for us, this is us sending a message to all and sundry who might want to defraud any state institution, not only UIF, that the law of this country will catch up with you.
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