When actress Niecy Nash and R&B singer-songwriter Jessica Betts first met in 2015, their relationship was strictly platonic. One was married, the other was in a long-term relationship and anything romantic felt 'off limits.'
Niecy: Jessica identifies my loving her out loud as courageous. But the truth of the matter is we only need courage in the face of fear. And I was not afraid to love her to the top of my throat.....and need to talk about more.I last spoke to actress Niecy Nash back in 2017. It was onstage at the Ace Hotel in Los Angeles. And in the five years since, her life has changed dramatically, including falling in love and marrying her wife, Jessica Betts, an R&B singer-songwriter.
JB: Yeah, because it wasn't. See, well, you're my wife now, but when– cause I was about to say when I met my wife– but when I met Niecy there was never any energy or she never came across as anyone that I felt like I could flirt with, or I never even felt that it was even respectable to, you know, kind of make a pass at her or anything. All of that stuff was off limits. It was out of bounds.
Niecy: I was on my way to go get crabs, by myself. And she said, ‘oh my God, I want crabs!’ The space– the spot was right in the middle of where we both live. I said, ‘meet me at the crab spot.’ Shout out to Just BeClaws in Jersey City.Anna: Jessica.Niecy: I ordered my food. Listen, I had crab juice all on my elbows by the time she showed up. That's how I know it wasn't a date, because I didn't care. I don't even remember what I had on because I didn't care.
Anna: And, um, when that was happening with Niecy, was there part of you like, oh man, here's where we are again? Niecy: This whole experience, this whole relationship has been really the first time in my life that I’ve felt fully seen. You know, I've, I've been in situations before where people, you know, they, they will, they want to take the meat and leave the bones. I like this, I like this, I like this about you.
Another listener, Emily, is 20 and lives in Arkansas, where a trigger law made abortions illegal last week. She’s currently in college, and says the thought of losing access to abortion where she lives..makes her afraid. Anna: Well, even with four that's like the fabbest four I've ever heard Niecy. And JB, what was that like for you to feel all of a sudden sort of like, oh, everybody's trying to find out who I am and where I came from?
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