The prime minister of Norway is ready to deal with Trump if he wins in November.
POLITICO Magazine spoke with Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre ahead of the NATO summit in Washington this week about Norway’s surge in defense spending and how he hopes to navigate this moment of extreme political uncertainty in Europe and North America. | Petras Malukas/AFP via Getty ImagesAlexander Burns is head of news at POLITICO. He has covered elections and political power across the U.S. for over a decade and co-wrote a best-selling book about Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
I think what French President Emmanuel Macron achieved by calling these elections was to challenge the French, Støre said. | Thibault Camus/AP It is of course influenced by what we learned from Ukraine — what we learned from a modern invasion by a very voluminous army, the Russian army. We don’t see an immediate threat of that sort toward Norway, but any country planning for its own defense has to draw on these lessons.
You have to start from the point of departure that we are dealing with democracies here. This is not a club of autocratic states, where you have prescriptive statements on how the world looks. You’re going to have different national settings, and NATO has had that since 1949. We even had years where you had members of NATO that were not purely democratic — Spain and Portugal under dictatorship, for example.
One is that Europe has to take a greater responsibility inside NATO. And we are, I think, showing how we do that by significantly investing. Secondly, I think what you have to do in any alliance is to prove the relevance for why we are doing this together. During the first Trump administration, I think countries like Norway and the Netherlands and Denmark were pretty good at explaining why it made sense to be in this alliance together. You have to make an effort to do that.
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