The Kills Talk to Ethan Hawke About God, Mortality, and Trashy Art

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Alison Mosshart and Jamie Hince of The Kills got on the phone with their friend Ethan Hawke while touring their latest album, God Games.

I’ve always questioned why I’m an atheist, but in music and when creating I like having god around,” said Hince, who’s been making music with Mosshart since 2001, when the pair first crossed paths in London., for his part, has his own theories about the presence of god on their latest record.

Human creativity is an act of faith. As soon as you get on stage and play a guitar, the subtext of what you’re saying is that our time here together matters and that communication matters. Making sense out of the universe matters. When you start saying that, somehow you’re talking about the divine. HAWKE: I was really thinking about acting on stage where you do have immediate feedback. It feels like electricity is being shot through you. I love the aspect of live performance. On film, I imagine it’s a lot more like being in the studio. If I go on stage it’s like a dream. The show starts and two-and-a-half hours later, I’m at a curtain call and I’m waking up from a dream.

MOSSHART: It’s always kind of similar. When we started the band, we lived in different countries, so we wrote separately and then we gave each other songs like gifts. That’s how I always thought about it. Sometimes we would put it in a box and send it across the ocean, then email was invented, but it took a while. So we typically write alone and write a whole song and then share it and edit and work on it together at the end. It has to be quite solitary.

You force yourself into dangerous situations to try to think more deeply. Ms. O’Connor had mortality thrust on her at a very young age so she didn’t have to manufacture darkness. The darkness was coming for her every day. I don’t know about you, Jamie, but I’m trying to be happy now.HINCE: Yeah, me too. It’s weird, when I was a teenager I loved protest music or like, anarchist punk music and I found that so fulfilling.

HINCE: Yes. It’s what I describe as emoji politics, where there’s no gray area. It’s like, “Is it a smiley face or is it a frown? Thumbs up or thumbs down?” I like exploring the gray areas and what’s in between these things.

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