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." Or just the difference in topics, right? I think it was more so content than it was imagery for me. There was aa while ago about Black celebrities who are only famous to Black people that white people wouldn't know. It's kind of like that, when you open your magazines and you see Ciara and Lil' Bow Wow and like people who are really famous in your community at the time and then you open a magazine likeI want to talk specifically about your expertise within fashion history.
I want to talk about social media next, because I think one of the fascinating things about places specifically like Twitter is that a lot of the work that you do can be placed on a platform like Twitter and really be celebrated, appreciated and disseminated in ways that before you had a platform like Twitter, it might not have been. How specifically has social media played a role in your work?
It definitely comes off inauthentic. Like you said, there's often very recent histories of racism within their own messaging, their own collections, their own imagery. Or sometimes it's excluding Black people from shows and creative, or even within their rates. Within their corporate functions there may not be a lot of Black employees there and the ones that are there might not be actual stakeholders or occupy seats where they actually had decision making power.
We've seen Black designers join the CFDA and win the CFDA Vogue Fashion award, like Kerby [Jean-Raymond] and like Christopher John Rogers. And we've seen Hanifa rise up andduring this time of COVID. I think it's changed in those very positive ways, but I think I've learned — not to say those are small feet by any stretch of the imagination, those are huge accomplishments — but those are things that are very public-facing.
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