IntoIt host samsanders on the podcasts he's listening to, how he listens, and his relationship to the culture writ large
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In terms of pure enjoyment, my three podcasts — I honestly call it my Holy Trinity — are The Read, Las Culturistas, and Who? Weekly. The Read has stopped publishing, but I’ve been a fan of that podcast since the start. In many ways, the tone and voice of that show is something I’ve been chasing throughout the years. Even when we were putting together what would become It’s Been a Minute, I had Brent Baughman [senior NPR producer, with whom Sam created IBAM] listen to The Read.
1.5x: Who? Weekly has many of the same qualities you’ve laid out with The Read and Las Culturistas. Feels like you’re drawn to a very specific thing with your Holy Trinity. Sanders: No, not really. I live in L.A., a city with real celebrities and shit. You might’ve been able to tell me, “Oh you’re a celebrity” when I was in D.C. around people who listen to political podcasts 17 times a day, but this is a different space where there are real celebrities. I will maybe get noticed every now and then, but then I’ll go to dinner at some bougie restaurant and there’s an actual movie-star person at the table next to me.
Sanders: Pacing. A lot of people think that just because they’re having a fun time talking with their friends on a microphone, it’s automatically fun for every listener. That’s not always the case. You need a sense of pacing and a respect for the listener’s time. But there are also many shows where I’m just like, “I want you to go on for two hours,” right? You have to decide on one or the other. If you’re gonna be totally loose, then do that and track for two hours.
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