‘Poker Face’: Natasha Lyonne, Rian Johnson and Showrunners Break Down Judith Light and S. Epatha Merkerson’s Episode 5 Twist

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‘Poker Face’: Natasha Lyonne, Rian Johnson and Showrunners Break Down Judith Light and S. Epatha Merkerson’s Episode 5 Twist
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SPOILER ALERT: This interview contains spoilers from “Poker Face” Episode 5, now streaming on Peacock. Following last week’s launch of four premise-setting episodes of Rian Johnso…

’s “Poker Face,” the new Peacock mystery series went in a drastically different direction for Episode 5, with murderers who don’t seem like the villains — until they do.

“You want her to be friends with these cool women and be ride or die with them — and instead they break her heart. And it’s really hard for her,” co-showrunner Nora Zuckerman toldCharlie is completely besotted with the women and their tales of sticking it to the man back in the day, even when she discovers that they are behind the murder of a new resident in their community.

“That’s always the slight tempting thing, because the instant you start doing that subversion of, in this one, it’s the killers that she becomes friends with — especially when they’re as charismatic as Judith and S. Epatha, it leads to that question,” Johnson said. “And my position was always, that’s not off the table — but that needs to be a really special case, that needs to be a last resort.

Stage combat aside, “Poker Face” co-showrunner Lilla Zuckerman finds the episode particularly emotional because of the devotion between Irene and Joyce and how it compels the viewer, and Charlie, to waver. “Their friendship is so pure, it’s so true and they have a lot of heart. So when they do something so wicked, you’re kind of stunned, but you’re also kind of on their side,” she said. “And I really enjoyed seeing Charlie struggle with her discovering this.

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