Penn Badgley Wants Out of His Box

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Penn Badgley Wants Out of His Box
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“I think there’s a million stories you can tell and just realize that you don’t have to include [intimacy scenes] in the same way,” Badgley says. “It doesn’t mean that you don’t tell the story about love. It’s just you don’t have to do it the same way. Now, if it’s just a story about a guy and a girl falling in love, well, yeah. Then you’re up against the challenge there. But I’ve told that story, you know, and I can’t say that I’m very interested in it anymore.

“I also don’t wanna do that,” Badgley responds. “When you are simulating murder, nothing of reality is happening. When you are simulating sex, your body is touching another person’s body. There is an act that is not being simulated. Right? Would I like to play a less violent person? Are you fucking kidding me? Of course. Would I like to not depict all these things? Sure. It’s a case-by-case basis, but when my body actually touches another person’s body, that’s not a simulation.

Yes. Badgley explains, “I’ve been doing this professionally for 25 years. I’ve been pursuing a career for that long, and I’ve been pretty finely tuned to this for most of that time, and felt very uncomfortable with a lot of the things I’ve had to do throughout my entire career. It doesn’t have to be sexual. It’s just, as an actor, you are an object. And that is the experience of women largely. It’s also the experience of men, but the dynamic that develops for women and men is different.

Badgley’s frustration with the acting industry is clear as he wonders out loud if he wants to stay in an “atmosphere where objectification is the norm.” But Hollywood is an industry that places high value on beauty and charisma, both of which Badgley has plenty of. Penn’s foundational audience, the people who will watch him in each project he does, follow his work largely because they are physically attracted to him.

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