A federal judge ruled on Tuesday that former Vice President Mike Pence must testify in the Justice Department's Jan. 6 investigation.
that he expected Pence to be compelled to testify. He said Pence's testimony could be among the most damaging evidence against Trump because he has"direct evidence of Donald Trump's crimes."
"The fact that Mike Pence can relay first to a grand jury, but then to a trial jury, the very words Donald Trump used when he was trying to pressure Pence to join the conspiracy, is direct evidence both of Donald Trump's criminal conduct and perhaps more importantly, it's evidence of Donald Trump's criminal intent, his corrupt state of mind, his guilty mens rea," Kirschner said on Saturday.
According to Cornell Law School:"Mens Rea refers to criminal intent. The literal translation from Latin is 'guilty mind....A mens rea refers to the state of mind statutorily required in order to convict a particular defendant of a particular crime."Despite seeking to avoid testifying in the investigation, Pence has been critical of Trump's actions surrounding the election. This month, Pence"President Trump was wrong," Pence said during the March 11 Gridiron Dinner.
Trump, however, has maintained his innocence, accusing prosecutors of engaging in a politically motivated"witch hunt" aimed at harming his 2024 presidential bid.
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