Jessie Ennis and Charlotte Nicdao from 'Mythic Quest' discuss becoming fast friends and season 2 of the Apple TV+ show.
: I love so much that you feel that way because I feel I learned so many lessons from you, especially in season one. I remember I hadn't done any work before where I had to improvise very much. And I remember shooting the first episode—all these scenes with Rob and David [Hornsby], who are incredibly funny and quick.
: I love so much that you feel that way because I feel I learned so many lessons from you, especially in season one... I remember I hadn't done any work before where I had to improvise very much. And I remember shooting the first episode—all these scenes with Rob and David [Hornsby], who are incredibly funny and quick...And I just remember coming out of these scenes and being like,"I have no idea, not even just how to keep up, but how to even be part of what is going on here." And I remember one Friday night we were driving after work to dinner...and I was like,"I don't know how to do this improv thing, and it's really hard." [You] have all this experience with not just improv, but you're a writer. And I knew that you do punch-up writing...and you gave me so many tips that I literally just brought in the lessons that you taught me that night the next week and was suddenly like,"Ah, I get it." And I'll be eternally grateful for that.One of the biggest things that you said was like,"Take what the scene is already about and build on it. Don't try to make a new thing happen."I learned that from Steve Mallory. He's a producer who makes movies with Melissa McCarthy. I did a movie with her where they'd be like,"Let's do a fun run and you guys can say whatever you want. Improvise." And the scene will be about one thing. And I'd be like,"When I was five, my parents left me in a ditch." I would come up with these ridiculous stories about my character and essentially just insert backstory into scenes that had nothing to do with me or my backstory. And eventually, Steve was like,"You're good at improvising, but you're trying to insert things that don't help feed the point of the scene so just try to stay on the rhythm and the wave of the reason why the scene is written. Give more information to the situation itself, not just weird backstory tidbits."That's good advice. I remember you telling me that and [telling me to] switch from feeling I needed to come up with a funny joke in the moment to being like,"What is my character feeling here?" And if it's funny, great. And if it's not a joke, it's probably still going to be funny. And, obviously, the blessing that I have is that Poppy is bad with people and bad at talking.You're a writer, you're a director. You're obviously a brilliant actor. What's the thing that you most gravitate to, or do you really feel all of these things are important to who you are as an artist?I think they're all important. And I think they all feed off of each other in this really cool way. Getting the experience of writing and directing informed my acting choices in a lot of ways, or even how I audition. I feel I'm more capable of seeing the point behind why a character is in a script thanks to my writing abilities... I'm a trained actor, so I feel the most comfortable acting because it's something that I have the tools to do. So acting's fun and challenging, but also kind of easy. It's comfortable for me to act. Directing is scary, and I love doing it because it gets my adrenaline pumping in a totally different way. And then writing is the homework that you have to do to get to do the other two things. I love when something is done, when I've already written it, and I can look back on it or edit it or start to plan pre-production.The moment between having a cool idea and actually getting that script is the worst period of time for me. I don't like sitting down and having to write, I get very in my head about it.I've had so much advice over the years—especially when I was still in a phase of my career where I was just struggling to get any work at all—where people would be like,"If you can't get a job, you should just write something." And I would be like,"I really don't think it's that straightforward." I can't write... It's a whole very complicated skill in itself that I find extremely impressive.I do find that people who are able to write for themselves create things that no one would have written for them. I lovefor [Phoebe Waller-Bridge]. She had to find her own opportunities.All the best TV, at the moment, is that stuff—people who have really strong voices that wrote something for themselves that is unlike anything that anyone else could ever create. Still doesn't make it easy though.It's like cooking. Do you enjoy the process or do you just enjoy a delicious meal at the end?Megan [Ganz, show co-creator and writer] and Rob have been so welcoming to us in every aspect of production. I got to spend time in the writer's room this year, and we got to shadow Rob as a director. You and I got to edit a scene together, which was really cool.Rob has said is it kind of makes you a better actor to understand how things get edited together and what it looks like watching it from the other side of the monitor. That day we had been sitting in and watching him edit and trying to learn stuff. And then at a certain point, he was like,"Okay, well I'm going to go, and you guys are going to stay here and have a go." And my instinctive reaction was to go,"No!" I was so insecure. And you immediately were like,"Wow, thank you so much for the opportunity. We can't wait to put something together." And I was like,"Yes, that. What Jessie said."undercutting yourself because three minutes after that you had a strong take on something that we had to have in the scene. I was like,"We can lose it." And you were like,"No, we're keeping that."What are you most excited for the fans to see this season?I think that the stuff that happens with [your character] Poppy this season is really cool, and I love how they handle female empowerment with an edge of satire... [Was] there a specific episode that was your favorite to shoot?The first episode is special. It kind of brings the joy after this long drought.With Megan, this was her first time directing, which is absolutely mind-blowing. Without giving too much away, I think when [viewers] see the episode that she directed you'll understand why I say that because it was an absolute feat of amazingness that she pulled off. It was really cool to see someone who had a vision from the beginning of the conception of the episode to actually executing.I don't think it would be a spoiler in any way to say all of us are in a really, really long scene, and Megan had to block it like you would a play... There were some takes that were seven pages long, which never ever happens... That stuff at the end is heart-wrenching [too]. I got to watch it with my mom and she was screaming at the TV and being like,"Poppy!"
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