We had a nice long chat with Sugar Ray's mark_mcgrath about his Vice docuseries DarkSideofthe90s, his own take on nostalgia and gratefulness, and the truth behind viral rumors like 'Every Morning' & that Cameo breakup:
Whether or not they were alive in the '90s, everyone knows the name Mark McGrath and has heard at least one Sugar Ray. The lead singer has also remained in the public eye outside of the music scene, with stints as a co-host of Extra, host of Don't Forget the Lyrics!, and more recently as the wild card in The Masked Singer season 5.
Mark McGrath: That's insane! And I want to tell you why it's insane. Forever, as you know, I've been compared to Ethan Hawke. Those who are watching are saying,"No way." Now, in the 90s and probably about the early 2000s, before I put on like 25 pounds, I looked like Ethan Hawke. I was like,"Oh, I'm interviewing you're 90s Brother, Mark McGrath." And he was like,"Oh, tell him I said hi!"
A lot of bands or a lot of people don't want to be associated with the 90s, because I think they feel it's a bit of nostalgia. And nostalgia in the music business is considered bad by the artists for some reason. I looked up the word nostalgia in a dictionary, it means remembering the best times of your life, sharing times with others, wishing to go back to a more innocent place. It's all these wonderful descriptions.
Sometimes, you go see a band and you get the sense, once they play their hit, that they're kind of reluctant to do it. The first time I ever saw you, the energy emulated off you. I remember my friend and I being like,"Mark McGrath is the coolest person in the world," because we wanted to be in your presence. And it was so contagious, how happy you were.
You say medium success like Sugar Ray doesn't have so many hits. I don't know the number off the top of my head. But whenever someone's like,"Oh, Fly!" I'm like,"No, no" And I just start rattling off six or seven hits that I love so much. Mark McGrath: I mean, there were a lot of crazy ones back in the day, like someone said I had a baby in Germany, but they would go away just as quickly, because for some reason, now, someone validates a tweet from an anonymous account in Des Moines, Iowa with one follower, and that thing is gospel. It's like Time Magazine put it out.
Mark McGrath: It got a whole new life again on TikTok. And the funniest thing, me being the moron I am, I perpetuated the rumor again. Because about 10 years ago, someone tweeted me,"Hey, Mark, is it true the song Every Morning is about pegging or a used condom or something?" and I go,"Finally, someone speaks the obvious truth!" It was a joke! Irony has been lost in the social media age, and that's something I lead with, in humor. I just think it's so obvious.
I always stick up for my LGBTQ brothers and sisters. I always have. I don't get it, and I'm not about it. And it just f--kin-- excuse me, it just pissed me off right there. And that was it. And of course, 25 years later, that's still something exists, but if people really knew what was behind that, I think they'd be a little less quick to throw around certain terminology that is still offensive to people. Because people aren't calling me Sugar Gay in a positive way.
And we got out there on a shuttle, on a boat. It just took us out there. And it dropped us off on the pier of Spooky Island, meaning we lived on the set of Spooky Island with all the extras and all the cast for five insane, party-fueled days. It was unbelievable. Mark McGrath: Shrinky Dinks... Look, it's a pretty lame name, let's be honest. We don't have any merch left over.
We were talking about going to your concerts and how you love performing. For people who might want to see you, you perform all the time with a bunch of other iconic kind of '90s, early 2000s artists, what do you have on the forefront? Oh, man. I love talking to you. You're always so motivational. I love your robe talks. I also love that time you broke up with somebody on Cameo or something. Mark McGrath: Well, it's another thing I go viral for that's not even the reason, but you can't even explain it, and why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
Three weeks later, I'm looking at Twitter and I'm trending number one on Twitter. And at the bottom it says Cameo and I go, I didn't even know what they were talking about. Someone goes,"Yeah, dude, that Cameo you made about the breakup is trending." I forgot about the breakup. I don't know what they were talking about. I go,"That can't be right."
Two things: your Cameo must have the best types of strange requests now, and I really wonder what it's like to wake up and see your name trending before you click on it, being like,"What could this be?"
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