Marina Abramović discusses conquering the fear of failure, the advice from the Dalai Lama and Lou Reed, and how to age with vigor.
The cards are such a playful thing. The exercises are difficult, but they have to be playful, and you have to have the attitude of joy doing it. Cards have always been playful. Historically, for centuries. I always remember His Holiness the Dalai Lama, he said to me,
If you are the only one walking on the street backwards, looking in the mirror and seeing reality as a reflection, this is really strange. People think you’re totally out of your mind. If you invite your friends for the weekend and say, “Let’s walk backwards with a mirror all together,” that’s kind of fun. I totally understand that being a black sheep, it’s strange and uncomfortable. We have to always figure out the best circumstances, and how we can adapt each exercise.
I would be lying to say, “No, I’m not afraid of death.” Right now, I don’t think I’m afraid and I really think I can confront it because so much of my work is based on this. Every day I think about dying and I always live like it’s the last day of my life. But at the same time, if I’m in a plane and there’s turbulence, I’m afraid. I’m so afraid. I’d like to die without anger, without fear, and consciously, and not in a car accident, a plane accident—in some stupid shit—or being sick.
This exercise is fantastic, because when you are angry, if you are suppressed, it’s not good. If you express it, it’s not good. So you have to figure out how to change the pattern of anger. When you’re angry and you stop breathing, you really have to stop breathing. You really have to get blue to the point that you say, “If I don’t breathe this moment, I’m going to die.
When you do these exercises, you have to have clarity of mind, without being influenced by anything. One of the things that I exercise in my life, instead of taking drugs, is not eating.
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