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“I know very well that there is no ‘Insecure’ without Shonda and ‘Scandal.’ I know that possibly there is no ‘Insecure’ without even ‘Girls.’” Issa Rae reflects on working with Hollywood execs.

when she learned what not to share publicly, and how the success of “Insecure” has changed her meetings with studio execs.And I’m Mark Olsen, and you’re listening to “The Envelope,” the L.A. Times podcast where we talk to top talent in TV and film.Mark, I have to say that today’s episode is really bittersweet for me.

One time for the birthday bitch! ALL: Aye!Well, there’s so much to talk about with that finale. But first, I have to ask, how did you land on using birthdays as the device to sort of structure the episode?I was really excited in coming up with that, just thinking about how we wanted to shift time and obviously thinking about the pilot episode. We’re introduced to Issa on her 29th birthday, and this season in particular is about growth.

Thank you so much for everything Issa. Like with this new thing I’m working on. It’s me creating happiness for myself I think. OK, alright. Enough.I didn’t realize how excited people would be to see Issa and Lawrence reunite. And even me. I was like, “Oh man, this did end up being a really beautiful episode.”And so I was like, he got a baby. Absolutely not. And thinking about my own feelings and putting myself in her shoes and being protective of her, I thought she made the right decision. I still stand by the fact that she made the right decision to break up with him.

But you’re having a baby with someone else!

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