Jonathan Van Ness got emotional while defending trans rights on Dax Shepard's podcast: 'I'm scared of the vitriol that trans people face everyday.'
should be considered a liberal-leaning organization, given what Van Ness described as "anti-trans" content. To this, Shepard argued using conservative talking points such as the outlet was merely "challenging" and asking "questions" about issues, such as teens taking puberty blockers.
"I feel like I'm talking to my dad," Van Ness, who is trans and uses they/them pronouns, said in response.| Credit: Vivien Killilea/Getty Images; Jason Merritt/Getty Images "I'm not calling you a transphobe," Van Ness said at one point. "You can not be transphobic and still have thoughts that espouse trans misogyny and espouse transphobic ideologies and beliefs."
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