Jacqueline Novak and Natasha Lyonne Talk Blow Jobs and 'Big Boy Stuff'

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'I think my thesis of the show in regards to the blow job is that the intention is the most important part. Then whatever spills out, whatever unfolds from the intention is as it should be.' — jacquelinenovak

, Jacqueline Novak’s one-woman stand-up play at the Cherry Lane Theater in the West Village, she compares a college-aged version of herself to “a broken Philip Roth character,” a Jewish pervert among the stone-walled buildings of an academic eden. Throughout theminute set, Novak saunters back and forth, the microphone cord saucily draped over her shoulder, orating , the entirety of the blow job

Missy Elliot, male allies, and performance anxiety, in all its forms. But in an unfortunate twist seemingly lifted from, a torrential downpour upon New York City and an ensuing flash flood warning interrupted our recording, necessitating that we all reconvene on the phone two days later. The following, dear reader, is the result. –NATASHA LYONNE: Hey Jacqueline, it’s Natasha from Jacqueline Novak Enterprises. I’m so glad to be speaking with you again.

LYONNE: It’s a deeply exposing, vulnerable show, so that’s maybe why. I will say that I was trying to be a confident bolster.LYONNE: In the days prior and the night of. I would be terrified going out there like Spalding Gray. There’s nothing scarier.LYONNE: Absolutely.

He knows exactly what I’m thinking and I can’t hide from him. It’s kind of scary, actually, hearing his notes. I’ll try to hide, like I’m doing some angry empowered show, and he’s like “You were just upset you weren’t getting laughs and you tried to turn it into that or something.” I’m like, oh fuck, you’re right.

SARAH NECHAMKIN: How did you come up with the idea to make a show about the male phallus primarily, but also using it as a vehicle into a more philosophical arena? I remember when I was opening for Birbiglia on the road, a male audience member was audibly, like, doubting whatever I said. He called out something or shook his head toward the front row. So I leaned into it. I was trying to explain that i

NECHAMKIN: What do you think makes the perfect blow job? Is it the intention? Is it the enthusiasm? Is it the will to follow through? Is it the actual thing? I like for things to be bigger than the containers that are meant to hold them. I like this idea that the soul should be bigger than the body. The body should behave as a poor container for a soul that’s spilling out over the edges, ideally.

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