Although Harper and Yas danced the night away in season four’s penultimate episode, the 'Industry' stars tease that “there’s plenty of time for things to go wrong” ahead of the season four finale.
In the penultimate episode of Industry ’s fourth season, “Points of Emphasis,” Harper and Yas run through the gamut of human emotions. They begin the episode as business adversaries, hurling insults at one another, and end the episode as friends dancing till dawn in a perfect girl’s night out, sealed with a kiss—a fact that makes both actors giggle, recalling the shoot.
For Abela, the club scene was both sentimental and nostalgic. “It felt like season one of Industry in that we’re just two girls dancing in a club,” she says. “It felt like that time in Berlin in season two, or all the season one stuff with Robert. It really felt like, ‘Oh yeah, this is the show that we set out to make.’” But before they can get to that point, the frenemies have to hash it out. “I really resented you for being a breathing example of how I was less than,” Harper says to Yasmin, over drinks at a pub. “And I choose to love you for being a breathing example for how I can be more,” Yasmin responds. That conversation was “the most honest and vulnerable conversation that they ever have” in Myha’la’s opinion. “They both ask for each other’s comfort in a way that there’s no hidden agenda, there’s no nothing,” she continues. “It’s pure, platonic need for comforting each other.” Many important characters have come and gone from the Industry universe—Gus , Robert , and most recently Harper’s mentor Eric Tao, played by Ken Leung. But throughout all the shifts and changes, Harper and Yasmin’s friendship—flawed though it may be—has served as the anchor of the buzzy HBO series. Below, Marisa Abela and Myha’la go deep on Yasmin and Harper’s complicated relationship, their sometimes toxic tether, and what we can expect for Industry’s season four finale. Spoilers for Industry below. Vanity Fair: After a season of being either separate or at odds, at the end of episode seven, we finally get to watch our girls together again, dancing at the club. What was it like filming that moment? Myha’la: It was so special. As much as we know the audience wants our girlies together and to have their dancing at the club moment, we really wanted it too. It does feel like an accumulation of all the seasons, everything they’ve gone through together. It’s the most intimate they could possibly be—that they’ve ever been. It was also really fun. It was a very fun shoot day. Marisa Abela: We don’t have that much together in the mid-section of the season. It was genuinely really nice to come back to each other. It was also about these two women being able to just for this night—just for this moment—love on each other in the way that they actually want to and be accepted and be held and be seen for who they really are. I think it’s such an important moment for the audience. With everything that you’ve got coming in the next episode, especially with Yasmin, I think it’s important to be reminded of the girls in this scene. Who they used to be—their hearts and them just in ecstasy, literally . By the end of the episode, both Harper and Yasmin have effectively broken ties with the two most important men in their lives: Eric and Henry . What was the breaking point in both of those relationships? It felt like that was what was needed for Harper and Yasmin to find each other again in some way. Myha’la: For Harper, it’s a massive shock and a huge blow. I think she tries the whole time not to be so personal with Eric. In her deepest moment when her mother passes, she has no one else. He fills that paternal role that he says he doesn’t even have a bone for. She gets to be a child, and she gets to be vulnerable with him. They go to the place that she says they really shouldn’t go, because they both need it. So, when he leaves the fund with no explanation, she feels, like, really, really abandoned, and she has absolutely no one. The only person she could turn to is Yas. Abela: It’s kind of the opposite for Yasmin in the sense that it’s a real slow burnout. It is equally painful in that she’s been trying to hold on with all her might to this thing. I think there is a lot of trauma for Yasmin with men. Men just have never been a safe place for her. She has never found safety in her relationships with men, but she craves their approval. She thinks that one day the place that she will find the ultimate safety is beside, behind, underneath the umbrella of a man. That’s just what she has been taught to believe. But the truth is that in those moments when she genuinely needs to feel safe, she knows who to go to, and that person is Harper. Heading into the episode, Harper and Yasmin have recently been at each other’s throats when Harper tries to warn Yasmin that her company, Tender, has shady business dealings in Accra and that it’s in Yasmin’s best interest to jump ship. Can you talk about going toe-to-toe in that scene? Marisa Abela: I think there’s history for Yasmin and Harper. Harper, at this point, is at least aware of where Yasmin is coming from. It does feel like Harper now doesn’t just see Yasmin as collateral. For Yasmin, she is saying, “You have to understand, I cannot continue to see myself as just collateral damage in your life.” It feels pointed at this point. Why me? Why my business? There are so many out there. If you say we’re friends, why are you constantly trying to explode my foundations? Yasmin is inviting into the belly of the beast to say, “Do you see this? This is my life. Do you still want to blow it up?” Deep down, Yasmin knows she’s still going to do it, because it’s her job and she’s good at it and it’s working. But this is the kind of last-ditch attempt to pull at her heartstrings, but Yasmin can’t help but be snide and bitchy. Myha’la: I think for Harper, she genuinely believes that she’s compartmentalizing her work and her friends. Her not-so-savvy-in-work friend continues to put herself in vulnerable positions, and Harper is a shark. She says, “Well, I mean, you put yourself in this shit business. Why don’t you know about this guy?” I think she genuinely believes she is coming as a friend to say, “I’m warning you, bro, get out of here. This company is what it is. You’ve aligned yourself. Now get out. I’m giving you the opportunity to get out.” I don’t blame Yasmin at all for thinking it’s a ruse. But that’s the beauty and the drama of TV. The thing that keeps them at odds is that Yas says it’s personal, and Harper says, “Why don’t you believe that I’m trying to help you? After all that I’ve seen you through, you’re still going to act like an idiot and not believe me? Then you’ve dug your own grave.” Because if is coming in earnest—which she doesn’t usually do—then it’s like, “Oh, well, fuck you anyway.” Before Harper and Yas hit the club, we watch them have a heart-to-heart at the pub. It’s perhaps the most honest conversation I’ve seen on TV all year, and really encapsulated the arc of their relationship. What was it like filming that scene? Abela: I mean, it was just such a vulnerable moment. Yasmin is a real love in life. This is who she’d chosen to call.… At this point, there’s no reason to not lay it all out on the table. It’s them being completely open with each other and inviting the other person to see that they are willing to be this vulnerable in front of the other. It’s a way of saying, “I trust you.” It’s like rolling over if you’re a dog. I’m showing you the most vulnerable parts of myself. Don’t bite me, don’t hurt me. Myha’la: I think Harper really feels for Yas because this is a scenario in which Yasmin has genuinely tried everything she could possibly do to save her marriage and do right by this company. She’s been through so much hurt and pain, and Harper really feels for her. So just like Yasmin is asking to be held, Harper sees, “Oh, this is really vulnerable. This is not self-serving. This is a genuine friend coming to you for help.” I also need help. And this is the moment in which we can hold each other. The episode ends on such a sweet note between Harper and Yas, but there’s still one more episode to go. What should we look out for in the finale? It feels like nothing can go wrong now. Myha’la: Girl, it’s Industry. Abela: There’s a bit of a time jump. You see into the future a little bit. Myha’la: There’s plenty of time for things to go wrong.
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