I followed Trump and Joe Rogan into the manosphere – and it was not pretty

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I followed Trump and Joe Rogan into the manosphere – and it was not pretty
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The former president speaks like a man who has been hypnotised, his subconscious just gaping open ...

, Donald Trump talked about five important things in a three-hour-plus podcast with Joe Rogan: whether the 2020 election was stolen; whether Kamala Harris was a “low IQ person”; whether he trusts polls; whether there is life on Mars ; and whether he would, if elected, eliminate federal income tax ., adding a meandering discussion about the environment, where Trump suggested that environmental regulations were just a scheme to enrich consultants.

And those are all reasonable talking points of course: if tax is to be abolished and replaced with tariffs, that sounds like something a citizen ought to know. If the peaceful transfer of democratic power is still hotly contested in Trump’s mind – if he blankly cannot conceive of an election in which he was not victorious, without assuming fraud – then it’s surely worth thinking about what that could look like in a fortnight’s time.

Here he is, again with Rogan, on Air Force One – “These guys are specimens. I always say they’re better looking than Tom Cruise. OK? And they’re even taller, like perfect specimens … You could see the pilot, a perfect looking human being, his co-pilot. Everybody was perfect. They were all like movie stars.” Back in March, his animating issue was what Cary Grant would have looked like, aged 81, or 100, in a bathing suit .

It’s like listening to a man who’s been hypnotised. The truly remarkable thing about disinhibition is that it throws all the embarrassment back on to the audience, which shuffles away, averting its gaze, talking about polls, concentrating on tax and North Korea.

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