On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ukrainian first lady Olena Zelenska join Margaret Brennan.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The labor protest targeting America's Big Three automakers expands, as workers in 38 locations in 20 states go on strike.
REPRESENTATIVE ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: Well, I think, right now, we are in such a crisis in our economy, a crisis of inequality, that it is going to take a level of political and popular support unlike that that we've seen in a strike situation like this in recent and modern history in order for us to get a breakthrough.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You know, one of the things that's happening in the auto industry, as you know, is this market shift and transition to electric vehicles. MARGARET BRENNAN: Elon Musk, who has majority share in Tesla, has said a lot of things against the unions. Now, this week, after perhaps almost a year of pushing from both the Hispanic -- the Congressional Hispanic Caucus to the New York delegation in Congress, we pushed to make sure that the Biden administration extended Temporary Protective Status, otherwise known as TPS, for Venezuelans, which will allow and open the pathway for Venezuelan migrants to actually begin working and supporting themselves, which will reduce the strain on our public systems, particularly New York's shelter system,...
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you know the Maduro government has also been responsible for large parts of that.
I want to emphasize that all people are -- they must be extended the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Speaker McCarthy has been very weak. I think that he has also engaged in just absolutely terrible decision-making for the American people, from continuing to try to cement denying the right to an abortion among women, to the denial of -- to policy that denies the reality of climate change...REPRESENTATIVE ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: ... to basic fiscal irresponsibility and recklessness.And so, absolutely, I think there is grounds.
This is -- I called it a month ago and I said we're on a path to a shutdown, because Speaker McCarthy wants that and President Biden wants that. Everyone feels as if this is a political problem, that they can just blame one another. REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: I don't want to see a shutdown, but, in my experience, if you give Congress more time, they're just going to take that time.
And this border crisis as -- is as if a Category 4 hurricane has hit. So I don't have the time to -- to pontificate on political futures for other -- other people. We're just trying to keep our head above water here in Texas.Well, if there is a shutdown, are the Border Patrol agents in your district prepared to show up to work at a time of migrant spike and not get paid?
You know, when we talk about the border crisis, we know what the problem is. The problem is -- is Joe Biden's failed immigration policies. We see the images. We hear the stories, but we never hear solutions. Let's -- let's talk some solutions. If we do that, that is how the crisis ends short term. And then, long term, there needs to be some movement on immigration reform, and in Congress.But you can't do that with Venezuelans, part of the problem here. Secretary Mayorkas took the president of Honduras to the border yesterday. They have sent military members to work in offices. They've granted half-a-million Venezuelans these work permits, potentially.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Speaker McCarthy has said there are going to be some border-related provisions in this potential continuing resolution. So, in my eyes, a continuing resolution that just has fake things doesn't get us any closer. What we need to do is draw a hard line in the sand and pass appropriation bills and move that over to the Senate and work with the Senate to get this ultimately signed by the president.And the time clock is ticking on that.MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly. He is in Austin, Texas, this morning.
And if we do -- if we fail at this moment, there's a chance that we -- a year from now, two years from now, we wind up in a situation where we could be in direct conflict with the Russians. We do not want that. We don't want this to escalate. But we're at the spot right now where they need an additional capability to maintain some more progress. The progress on this counteroffensive, it's been good. You know, I talked to Ukrainian commanders.SENATOR MARK KELLY: There are things that are, you know, starting to provide some, you know, problems, but we're making progress there.SENATOR MARK KELLY: Well, these are serious and shocking charges, bribery, corruption.
Senator, the governor of your state said Friday the state's overwhelmed. She was talking about migrants. We are on pace for a record number of border crossings. SENATOR MARK KELLY: Well, border patrol agents are on the front line of this crisis. I mean so are - so are sheriffs. He mentioned sheriffs. But we've got thousands and thousands of border patrol agents on the border enforcing our laws and also processing, you know, asylum seekers. If they stay home, I mean this crisis will be compounded by an order of magnitude.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, but, I mean, Republicans have objected to even passing defense spending at this point. Aren't we in a sort of dangerous moment? The other - the other - the other issue, Margaret, is, what is Iran going to do with that money? We saw this with the JCPOA. They took that money and they spent it on terrorism and on ballistic missiles and on nuclear programs. I'm afraid they're going to build more drones that kill Ukrainians with the money we just gave them. So, I'm thrilled to see Siamak and Morad and the others home, but I'm - I'm very concerned about the - the look of the deal internationally.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about national security as it relates to the upcoming U.S. election as well. MARGARET BRENNAN: Well -- well, given Donald Trump's role in the events leading to that day, I wonder if you would serve in a second Trump administration? OLENA ZELENSKA : Unfortunately, only one third of Ukrainian children can now attend school because our schools have to be safe, to be located in safe areas, and we need schools with bomb shelters. And my foundation continues fundraising resources to ensure that we have comfortable bomb shelters in all Ukrainian schools.
When we address people from many countries and share this terrible numbers with them, indeed you see pain in the eyes of those people. You feel horror. But this is not enough. We have to unite our efforts to insure that those who committed those crimes face justice. Sometimes people are concerned this is a taboo in many cases to say that -- and acknowledge that you've been a victim of sexual crime.
Of course there are political debates and there are discussions, there are different opinions. Some people agree, they disagree. This is a democracy. But nevertheless, truth has to win because it is clear that truth is on Ukraine's side. We manage to return back approximately 680 children. We have the least of children who are being looked for by their parents. There were a lot of children who started in orphanages and boarding schools, and those boarding schools were taken to Russia as an institution.
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