Filmmaker alexjholder interviewed Donald Trump and says the then-president could not have a rational conversation after January 6
Photo: AJH Films A large swath of America learned who Alex Holder was last week after it was reported that footage the British filmmaker shot for a documentary about the Trump family had been subpoenaed by the House committee investigating January 6. His film Unprecedented documents the months before and after the 2020 election, including the attack on the Capitol, with particular focus on the dynamic between Donald Trump and his adult children.
I wasn’t part of the media fabric in the U.S. I was an unknown quantity, in a sense. So I think an aspect of their thinking was definitely, “Here’s a guy who’s going to film us win.” And I joke that maybe my British charm helped. But there was no secrecy here. They’re big boys and girls. They came, they sat down and answered the questions they wanted to answer, and if they didn’t want to, that was their prerogative. Last week, people in the Trump camp were saying that they didn’t know about us.
The perspective Cassie had is obviously incredibly unique and powerful and more authoritative with respect to intent and planning. My perspective was very much a result of having witnessed the campaign rallies and the rallies that took place after the election. With the rhetoric being espoused by the president and his family, this was an inevitable result.
You interviewed Trump three times, two of them after January 6. You’ve said that you believed in his heart of hearts that he thought he actually won the election. This aligns with everything we know about Trump, but did anyone else around him construct that same force field, or were they just trying to please him?
We didn’t — it just took a really long time for us to make. We were filming and editing simultaneously. I would say the series is really good, and I put that down to someone I work with named Marcos Azevedo, who is a master in every way. What we wanted to do was make it a very clear chronicle of events, as well as include this portrait of a very complicated, fascinating, and controversial family — interweaving those narratives. I’ve mentioned there’s a Succession-style vibe in the story.
You were filming at the Capitol on January 6, and you’ve said the footage could be some of the most dramatic we’ve seen yet. It feels like we’ve been privy to every possible angle from that day. What can you share about what you shot that we may not have seen before?
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