Musician Erika de Casier and Sega Bodega talk candidly about muses, sampling, and their theories of collective consciousness.
when the two hopped on a Zoom call last month. The playful Paris-based club producer, who sent de Casier a sneak peak of his forthcoming new album,has had her tunes on repeat lately. “Your lyrics are so appropriate for falling in love,” he remarked as the pair settled in to talk candidly about muses, sampling, and theories of collective consciousness.SEGA BODEGA: We’ve been nonstop. We’ve had so many since I last saw you.
BODEGA: That makes sense. That song specifically is supposed to start your day. It’s supposed to be your alarm clock after having just had a terrible sleep. You’re trying to figure out if you actually even woke up. Because sometimes you can be in this crazy state of mania or you’re so detached from yourself that you don’t even feel like you’re really alive. I get it when I’m really exhausted.BODEGA: I love your album, though. The production on it is so good. It’s so deep.
And in time, it began to make more and more sense to me. When I listen to my old music, I almost get an image of where I was when I was writing it. So I wanted to say, “this is a still of where I was.” It’s already been a while since I wrote it, and I feel disconnected to it—not in a bad way. And of course, it’s also the reference to “Still Jenny from the Block,” and ”Still D.R.E.” I thought that was funny.
DE CASIER: It’s coming from the same place. It’s also touching on more of a toxic type of relationship, but I still wrote a lot of the songs from a place of hopefulness. I know a lot of artists that force the unhappy artist ideal. They have to go through all this pain to be able to do your art, but I don’t think that’s what it’s about. Life will give you pain. Don’t you worry. To search it is a bit much.BODEGA: Yeah.
BODEGA: Everything changes after you die, too. Someone’s work and someone’s impact immediately becomes a different thing, and it’s so sad because many people don’t get the respect or the credit that they deserveDE CASIER: Maybe it becomes more magical because you know you won’t get more of it. I think that happens with a lot of painters where it’s like, there’s not any more coming from this mind, so the price goes up.BODEGA: It’s kind of like when you play in a small town, everybody will come.
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