A new Timelord audio series starts this weekend - written by and starring transgender women.
Juno and Charlie were speaking to Newsbeat the day afteroutside Downing Street in London against government plans to ban conversion therapy for lesbian, gay and bisexual people - but not for transgender people.
"I was a queer kid growing up in West Yorkshire, and the thought that one day a Timelord would turn up on my doorstep and whisk me away from everything that was awful in my life was a really seductive idea," she says. "For your first acting gig, come on, getting a lead role in Dr Who is pretty sick, isn't it," she says.Charlie has previously presented a documentary on BBC iPlayer about her experience as a trans person in the UK - but says trans representation in drama and entertainment is something very different, because it can reach people who might otherwise have no interest in transgender rights.
"You'd have to be some sort of sociopath not to feel something when you hear what she's going through with her mum." "When I look at shows like Queer As Folk or It's A Sin, they have changed the conversation around gay people, about HIV," she says
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