'Any Chaturbate or OnlyFans suggestions, or is that not your thing?' DennisCooper and RichardHawkins discuss books, naked bodies, and 'the pornographic slaughterhouse that you call prose.'
, with that super real, exploding emotion. I had to build a machine, like you said, where I could actually explode but there also had to be something to read that was engaging. I spent seven months writing a first version of it, which was very emotional and tough for me to do. It was just terrible. I looked at it afterwards and there was nothing there. I did salvage one part in, about the first night I met George. That is the only thing in the book that’s absolutely factual.
COOPER: I totally know what you mean. It’s weird, yeah, and I feel that way about [the New York gallerist] Hudson, too. It’s really hard for me to accept that he’s not around because he was just this total White House of a person for me. HAWKINS: There’s an abstraction process probably, where you’re moving the content around to resonate.HAWKINS: This is also the first time I’ve read a clinical diagnosis of the love object in your work. Here he is characterized several times as bipolar.
COOPER: I don’t know. As for me, I went to therapy for three years in the early ’90s and it was really soft-core. It was this woman who was the psychiatrist of Sylvester Stallone and she was just super nice and there wasn’t much to it. I’ve never taken antidepressants. I just try not to think about it. I don’t like to think about myself. I just like to keep moving forward.
HAWKINS: In the novel, George is transformed into so many dimensions, some of which get deified, while the others get crucified or layed or dissected. By the way, did you ever manage to track down the grandchildren of [the late French porn star] Pierre Buisson? Are they hanging out on every street corner?
HAWKINS: And it’s edited down from 6,000 pages. Do you keep up with other serial killers? Like Sasquatch?
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