Stephen Means and Stefan Krajisnik break down Ohio State's 49-14 win over Marshall.
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run it off a high. It’s just kind of like, that wasn’t as bad as I thought it was. Or, yeah, that was worse than I thought it was. There’s something else. It’s never what you think. And I feel like Ohio stage 49, the 14 game against Marshall is like the epitome of, everybody calm down. Things were not as bad as maybe two drives led you to believe they were.there we go. Now we’re in it. The Monday, let’s be reasonable. So let’s start with QB talk.
Was he did you get the vibe that he was just kind of like staring down Jeremiah? It seemed like within a split second like the ball went to Jeremiah like I think maybe pre snap he realized I could get these options aren’t going to be there. So he went straight to Jeremiah, which I think is I understand ends in a pick. I think that’s promising that he was able to identify that person was watching a play like the other options weren’t open.
Missed number two in the third quarter, it’s first and 10 and is an incompletion to Jelani Thurman. I think that’s Jelani Thurman’s fault. I think Will thought he was going to sit in the zone and the ball placement tells me it’s on the receiver. It’s low and it’s behind him and I think it’s zone coverage. so instead, if it’s, one of those routes where if it’s a man, you keep going through, if it’s zone, you sit in the middle of a zone. I don’t think Jelani sat.
That’s just kind of a non -conference thing of like, let’s give these guys a little snaps. And when big time play emerges, we’ll see maybe a guy start to kind of pull away and get more to snaps. do you think that’s the case? Do you think it’s like, hey, at some point someone’s got to kind of separate himself? And maybe it doesn’t need to be number one tight end massive gap to number two, but maybe more of like, here’s number one.
which means you can’t play them 50 snaps every single game. So I get it. Plus at that position specifically, their best tight end was did not make it through the season unscathed. Cade Stover got knocked out of the peach bowl after his first catch, I believe in the first quarter. Cade Stover missed some games last year dealing with an injury and that was in a world where it was like Cade Stover and nothing got tied in. You do have some options.
The Titans weren’t getting the ball as much as Kate Stover does. And so there are nuances. It’s a developmental position. So the fact that Jelani Thurman wasn’t ready to handle 35 snaps a game in week one of his second year of playing college football, not shocking. The fact that Will Casmeric isn’t ready to play 35 snaps a game in week one of his first year playing power for college football, not shocking at all. So you do kind of, you offset that by going with some depth there.
said, listen, Quinn’s not starting quarterback. He’s just hurt right now. And this is our backup and he’s playing. That’s the case right now. Julian’s 2025 season is irrelevant. Whether you agree with that approach or not, that’s the approach. The approach is Will Howard is the starter. Devin Brown is the backup. And every garbage time rep that a backup gets is valuable because they have to be ready if something happens to Will Howard against Oregon. They have to be ready.
That’s not how they’re using them. They’re not using those reps to get ready for 2025. They’re using those reps to make sure they’re prepared for every scenario in 2024. And we have to remember that’s what matters most. That’s quarterback talk. We’re gonna take our first quick break here and then we’ll talk offense defense.
He is an offensive mind that is well renowned around college football, all these things, but he’s also Ryan Day’s mentor. So Ryan Day knows that guy too. Carlos Loughlin is the first offensive hire that Ryan Day has made where he didn’t know him from Adam. He was just put in a situation where his running backs coach is now up at Michigan and he needed to go find a guy and he wouldn’t found the best guy he could possibly find in Carlos Loughlin. And so it’s interesting.
and gets a handoff and it’s a touchdown. It’s another situation where it’s like, OK, you did that. But could we have kept that ball if he really wanted to in both of those situations? And that goes back into what Ryan Day was talking about and having a guy who is a threat in the run game. You can do stuff like that because people believe even if it’s for point two seconds, that’s sometimes all you need to get an opening in college football point two seconds.
And here’s what stood out to me. I don’t necessarily I know I sent to you a play from each of us that describes why Marshall exploited Ohio State’s defense and who on their schedule can maybe like mimic that in a way. For me, it wasn’t really a play. It was just more of like a series of things that Marshall and Stone or were able to do. It felt like any third and short stone or before he got hurt was like, if your first read is not open, take off or a QB draw.
You can’t really get a pass rush because Marshall’s getting the ball off quickly, which I’ll explain in a little bit after I let you go. Marshall’s getting the ball out quick, undisciplined defensive tackles that leads to a day where Marshall is able to put some things good and get some things going in the first half.
If your first read is not there, you don’t have time to get the week read two, because if you do, if you try to go to your read two, you saw what happened to Western Michigan and Akron’s quarterback and how they couldn’t finish games. That’s going to happen to you too, which is ironic because he also didn’t finish the game. But first read not there, say goodbye. And I think Stone Earl did a good job of executing that. Here’s Oregon. Here’s Dylan Gabriel.
Just for the point in the South, some newsy stuff. Players of the game, they did Trevion Henderson and Quinchon Juddton because I thought that was appropriate. Quinchon had more counting numbers, but he also ran the ball eight more times than Trevion Henderson did. Both of those guys were super explosive. One just ran the ball more than the other one did. So both of those guys got off its player of the game as we’re recording this pot. I haven’t seen a defensive player of the game, which.
So we’re going to take a look around the Big Ten and just kind of have a conversation about how many Big Ten teams do we think realistically have a chance of shaping up a college football playoff resume. And we’ll do that when we come back from the break here on Buckeye Talk. Ohio State has done what they were supposed to do for three weeks. They dominated. They had a weird two drives against Marshall, but other than that, they have dominated. So I stay at number two. Tennessee, I think now has the best one in the country. But I also think that right now, Texas and Ohio State are on a tier by themselves. So Tennessee goes at number three for me. think, listen, that’s up for debate. But Tennessee went into a ranked opponents arena.
for both of you guys. You put Iowa on its own tier, which I think you just did to be funny and I’m gonna let you do it. Frisky and fun, you had Illinois, Nebraska and who?It is mine too. Like if any of those four teams are playing or playing against each other, I will be watching.And that tier, all four of those teams, I don’t even know if I want to say it.
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