In a lengthy response, Scientology denied nearly every claim in this interview.
When I was reading your book, I had some revelations about the culture inside Scientology that I hadn’t had before, especially around the topic of abuse, which obviously overlaps with rape. It seems almost like a culture where dominance, or having power over someone else, is just the way life is.
The most important thing to understand about Scientology when it comes to this topic is this concept of what [Scientology’s founder L. Ron] Hubbard called the “overt-motivator sequence,” or as it’s shorthanded in Scientology—This is an absolutely fundamental principle of Scientology.
Well, actually, there is … But also, what isn’t understood generally is in the mind of Scientologists, it’s not just following a rule. It is what they believe is the best thing to do, to turn the person over to Scientology to be helped, not turn them over to law enforcement to be locked up and tortured.I was interested to hear that they surveyed the jurors in this trial for having consumed media about Scientology.
I mean, you’re even seeing it in the mayoral race in Los Angeles. Rick Caruso and Karen Bass are in a. Ten years ago, nobody [in a race like that] would even utter the word Scientology. They just wanted nothing to do with it. Now it’s like, I’m going to get brownie points with the electorate by saying that I hate Scientology more than you do.What do you think the stakes are for Scientology, of this trial? It feels like, within the world of celebrities, that being a Scientologist doesn’t seem to be quite the thing anymore. They seem to be having a little bit more trouble attracting people. I don’t know if that’s an accurate thing to say.
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